Ant-Man and the Wasp: A Thing I've Now Seen

[coprime]

Finally watched this movie! Not really feeling complete sentences at the moment!

-Liked Scott & Cassie. Thought they were adorable & great together.

-Liked Luis! He's great two, along with the other two dudes in the company who aren't Scott.

-Didn't really like how Hank & Hope treated Scott in the first half of the movie. Like, I didn't really think he'd done that much wrong? On the other hand, don't really remember much of the first Ant-Man or Civil War because...

-...Did not see any chemistry between Scott & Hope, like, at all and had completely forgotten that was apparently a thing in the first movie. In my head, it was a gen movie with 0 romantic plot elements and based on this movie, that is super not accurate.

-Was less on board with the humor than I thought I'd be. Remember enjoying the first movie, but this one a lot of the humor felt...inappropriately timed, I guess? So I didn't dislike the jokes but they didn't land for me either because of "Why...are we doing this now?"

-Really liked Bill & sticking to his morals about Cassie shouldn't be involved & killing Janet is not the answer & how he stuck by Ava at the end too.

-Strongly dislike the ending of Scott shrunk and Hank & Hope dusted. It felt mean & cruel. Possibly would feel different about it if I'd seen Ant-Man and the Wasp a month after Infinity War like the theater release schedule, but...now it seems very jarring for the rest of the tone of the film.

Comments

[shy_magpie]

For me, Hope's attitude only makes sense if you see it through the lens of "I am second choice in MY FATHER's eyes to wear to suit compared to YOU?" and dealing with him as a symbol of her relationship with her father; then being kinda won over despite herself as she starts to see him as a person. I think it was over strained trying to keep the "happy caper jokey" tone as they dealt with the much more emotional story of Ghost and the recurring theme of Father & Daughter Relationships. (side note are my issues showing or is Pym seriously giving Howard Stark a run for his money in the "we refuse to acknowledge this father-child relationship is messed up" category?). The dusting was a mean sucker punch that did nothing to serve the ark of that movie, and it only served to try to force a tie to Infinity War which itself was a mean sucker punch of a movie, IMHO. Seriously it was like 10 seconds they could have put it in the death montage in the bleak movie as opposed to taking the win away from A&W.

[coprime]

Oh, I like your interpretation of Hope's character! You're right, that does make a lot of sense & ties in nicely to the rest of the movie.

I thought Pym came across as an asshole for a lot of the movie, so probably not just your issues? Especially when Scott & Cassie's relationship is right there to contrast Hank & Hope's. I will say my interpretation of Hank may be colored by what I've read of comics!Hank.

Thank you for agreeing with me on that ending! It was a sucker punch for the sake of a sucker punch but that's a really mean thing to do when there's no more movie and I can't get any sort of catharsis. I'm not a fan of killing characters in general and this was so horrible.

(Infinity War had me coming out of the theater feeling the opposite of what I'm sure Marvel Studios wanted me to feel. I came out of it going, "Whelp, they are clearly going to un-dead all those people somehow with time shenanigans, so I don't care about Endgame because whatever time shenanigans I imagine will probably be more to my liking than Marvel's.")

[shy_magpie]

I certainly walked out of infinity wars feeling like "what ever emotion you were going for is rather under cut by the existence of time travel" but I could rant about infinity wars/end game all day and I try to spend my energy on the movies I like rather than anger. Like the mash up of Civil War and Age of Ultron that exists only in my head.